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Audio recording: https://archive.org/details/OpenBadgesCommunityCall20January2016
WELCOME TO THE OPEN BADGES COMMUNITY CALL
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MEETING: January 20, 2016
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Roll Call: Who's here?
Please add your name / Affiliation / Twitter handle / email address / Org & intention for your involvement in the wider badges community:
- Devin Lally / Badge Alliance / firstname.lastname@example.org
- Kev Jones / Sussex Downs College / @SDCInnovation / email@example.com
- Don Presant / Learning Agents / @donpresant / #badgeCAN
- James Willis / Indiana University / @Willis3James / firstname.lastname@example.org
- Brian LePore / CypherWork / @POWRSURG / email@example.com
- Nate Otto / Badge Alliance / @ottonomy / firstname.lastname@example.org
- Geoffroi Garon / startup @pygnum / researchlab @lcauqam / email@example.com
- Dan Hickey/Indiana Universityfirstname.lastname@example.org
- Federico Giacanelli / @bolsoblog /@joinbestr / https://bestr.it / email@example.com
- Serge Ravet /@szerge
- Dan Hoffman / RedCritter / @RedCritter / www.redcritterteacher.com / www.redcritterconnecter.com / firstname.lastname@example.org
- Laimonas Ragauskas/ Badgecraft/ @laimis001
- Brett Herzog / email@example.com
- Kerri Lemoie / OpenWorks Group / @kayaelle @openworksgrp / firstname.lastname@example.org
- TZ Martin / Semantic Press / @tzmartin
- Nerijus / Badgecraft / @nercas / email@example.com
- Agne Rapalaite /Badgecraft / firstname.lastname@example.org
- Martynas Stukas / Badgecraft
- Paul Nauert / @PaulFromDP / Digital Promise / email@example.com
- Chris Crytzer /Badge Alliance / @crytzer / firstname.lastname@example.org
- Jim Goodell / CEDS/QIP / @jgoodell2
- Robert Bajor / Digital Promise / @misterbajor / email@example.com / Educator micro-credentials
First time introductions:
- Umer Tanvir FSA from Awkum
REMINDER: these calls are recorded for future review, published CC-BY on archive.org
What are you working on this week?
- [Kev Jones] Building our Open Badge Academy at Sussex Downs College. Pilot is focussed on Employability Skills, Employ7er Engagement and building professional development badges. https://www.openbadgeacademy.com/sussexdowns/ Get in touch firstname.lastname@example.org
- [James] Join our first 2016 Higher Ed Working Group call next Tuesday (26 January) at 12pm EST (9am PST / 5pm BST) featuring Bernard Bull from Concordia University Wisconsin, Part II
- [James] We've been working on an interactive flowchart for badge building, inclusive of resource links, etc.: https://sites.google.com/site/openbadgesinhighereducation/obhe-flow-chart
- [James] Makewav.es (w/Open Badge Academy) in the UK has been doing some awesome work in badges: http://hosted-p0.vresp.com/1096837/fbdaf1ac02/ARCHIVE
- Devin: WIOA Research. I plan on posting research I have done on the mailing list to have the Badge community enter some thoughts on how WIOA fits into Badge Alliance. http://bit.ly/badgesgroup
- Nate: Defining quarterly goals for the Badge Alliance, kicking off our documentation project to consolidate and update all of the "official" Open Badges material
- At CSky: Another release of Badgr.io coming out today, followed by GitHub code release. Implementing UI for revoking badge assertions and deleting badge classes
- Don: With Serge, ePIC 2016 Oct 27-29 in Bologna...see Call for Contributions at http://openepic.eu +1! (draft site)
- Prediction: Will be a banner year for ePIC and partners at CINECA
- With Discendum, preparing to launch a Canadian server version of Open Badge Factory/Open Badge Passport (under a different name TBA) (https://github.com/discendum/salava)
- Kerri: Taxonomies work: Working on a technical impementation of an extension with an example implementation of a vocabulary framework. Will revisit a WG once that is in place.
- Tackling both the content of a taxonomy and the technical aspects at the same time, so starting with a quick push on technical aspects and then will follow up with a content-focused group within the next couple months.
- Lumina-funded: Connected Credentials work building on a credentials registry, they're looking at how all these different types of credentials can fit into the organization system
- Serge: in Lyon to train French and Belgian jesuit school directors on Open Badges — hope to get digital indulgences in exchange! Preparing mid-term report for the DML-Trust challenge for the Open Badge Passport
- Nerijus: in Lithuania, training organisations involved in European Voluntary Service to start using Open Badges to recognise learning and experiences
- Bestr: defining and implementing the object model for interacting with the LRS
- Internal discussions about issuing a "context badge": badge about the context in witch a particular assessment is held.
- There is a desire to issue a badge where the assessment leading to it may happen in any one of a set of physical test centers with proctors/controls for quality assurance.
- Need to embed information in the badge that can be understandable about the quality of the assessment.
- There are examples of this already out there: NOCTI, Pearson Acclaim and BadgeCert clients, etc.
- Thanks, Don. So it makes sense for you, doesn't it?+1 as one use case...
- LRS == Tin Can Api / xAPI(it's time to move the LRS to a blockchain ;-) we are still studying it; definitely looking in that direction. :-)
- [Jim Goodell] Session at LearnLaunch2016 at Harvard Business School tomorrow on standards (including badge standard) and how the standards ecosystem is working together.
- Chris: I'm gathering known Badge Alliance web content for an index and working on a proposed combined sitemap for the website
- We'll be combining a lot of the distributed documentation published by Open Badges and
EPortfolio, Blockchain and Open Badges
Serge Ravet and Don Presant
- Paper records are inadequate
- "Cocurricular records" craze swept through the US last decade, moving through Canada: an effort to value learning that happens outside of the classroo, , but typically on campus and has to still be validated by university authorities
- LinkedIn is a fact of life out there. Employers do check candidates (or "passive recruits") out online.
- ePortfolios can summarize your learning, but they can also _make_ you learn as you assemble data
- ePortfolios not a magic bullet
- Many benefits come from having learner control of evidence of learning
- ePortfolios have reached a critical mass in the US - at one point 52% of university undergraduates used ePortfolios
- There are some confusion about goals and questions about whether ePortfolios are for the learner or for the institution
- Even at their best, ePortfolios are a lot of work to put together. And they're also hard to assess.
- Case from Lipscomb University - expensive but powerful model ("Business OSCE")
- Michigan M-Blem program to recognize co-curricular learning, also Notre Dame
- Slide 21: Tracking someone's career through a lifetime of work in humanitarian organizations
- Slide 22: "Small pieces, loosely joined"
- slide 24: ePortfolio can start working with a backpack/passport to start remixing and pulling together pieces of evidence on demand.
Don's Blog Post (slideshare above is embedded)
From Dan: This is awesome. May I reference the text in my talk at the AAC&U National e-Portfolio Forum in Washington DC this Saturday? I like the problems with e-portfoliosNo problem 8->
Serge's blog post:
- Technology we have today for ePortfolio is essentially the same as what we had 10 years ago
- What Serge hoped to do with Open Badges was "informal recognition of informal learning" --rather than formal in either of those states.
- Started to develop a concept of "trust" as core concept to open badges
- Discovered some weaknesses to current Open Badges model
- Required to put token of trust into a picture (badge image)
- Discovered the Blockchain
- What is the possibility to offer a badge that is "signed" in the blockchain? There was no good answer at the time.
- The concept of a blockchain is a "ledger" - a place where you record things. This is very much like an ePortfolio.
- You then create different representations of the recorded data for many different things: to do an assignment, to get a job, to present to different audiences
- Let's use a ledger as a way to record badges, where a badge could simply be an entry into a ledger.
- Trust I receive is a debt to the people who give me the trust, and the trust I give is a credit
- Blockchains have a currency foundation
- It may be possible to use the same technologies for ePortfolio, badges, and ___
- All information to record into a user's personal ledger
- As part of Open Badge Passport project, would like to fork a version of Passport based on the blockchain. (Including Mahara +1) Communicating with Mahara developers - maybe this application could be used to store both badges and evidence
- Raised 10 challenges at 2010 ePIC
- One problem from the beginning was interoperability
- In ePortfolio world, this was always about "import/export" data, interaction with LMS
- Why not just have the data in the student's hands from the beginning?
- Student wants their learning record on their own blockchain
- Beauty of blockchain is that it is a general purpose technology - Used of course for money transfer, but also for many other items. (personal ledger= (open) personal data store) hide in plain sight!
- Kerri: You can think of the blockchain as distributed servers (c.f. bit torrent+1), as opposed to the decentralized but singular servers owned by single orgs where badges are hosted right now.One of the main concerns in badges is: "What happens if the server or issuer goes away"? The distrubuted web/blockchain can solve this issue for badges and evidence.
- Serge: What I love about badges is that a badge is a relationship.+1 Blockchains will embed this relationship into the technology.
- Nate: I'm quite concerned about what the level of access is to the record of that relationship is in a blockchain. Do issuers or recipients of trust have appropriate control over who can view or understand their relationships? Are they forced into making things more public than they intend?
- Don: There are some concerns about blockchains (i.e. technology alone is not enough). There is a long row to hoe in terms of making sure people don't get left behind. We need to balance this cutting edge development with robust questioning of how badges are useful to people in different settings+1.+1
- Federico: why the accounting book metaphor? Is the ledger supposed to push the user to have a positive balance, (ie: to give more credit than he received)?
- even from a strict accounting point of view, there is nothing wrong in having debts, as debts mean that I have received more trust than I have received :-)
- Serge: There would be ways to create incentives to keep the flow of trust going in the community. If people have given out much more trust than they have received, that could be interpreted to mean that each unit of their trust is worth less than someone with a "positive balance"
- Serge: The point of the ecosystem is to generate flows of trust+1
- Not obliged to use all the rules of the existing bitcoin ecosystems, can fork those approaches with adjusted mechanics
- The ledger metaphor is both technical and conceptual as badges can be defined as a type of fiat.
- Would it be accurate to say that what's being refered to as a personal ledger is a "wallet" app containing entries from the blockchain?
- It's a kind of portfolio / wallet of personal assets — trust received and given is part of personal assets
- If each student has her own blockchain, doesn't that defeat the purpose of the blockchain being distributed?
- Badges with visual design introduced playfulness and attractive way to visualise achievements – it’s an element borrowed from games and end users appreciate this aspect. So the question if badges transform into some kind of virtual ledger, how we keep the visual, playful, motivating and engaging element that badges are bringing to educational process?
- Kerri: The ledger is just a recording of the data vs hosting the data on issuers' servers. Everything else can still be accomodated (in my opinion).+1
- The blockchain isn't owned by any one particular entity, rather it's a distributed model of trust. We read/write to it as a public ledger. Owning the blockchain could refer to our participation and identity as part of a notarization paradigm.+1
- Kerri: Been looking into http://www.multichain.com/
- Thanks for sharing. I'm building a blockchain system for openbadges and am working on technical implementation.
Questions and Hot Issues roundup
Moving Forward: Topics for the weekly Community Call
This is your community call. Suggestions for topics and presenters are welcome, and Badge Alliance staff will follow up to schedule.
Please add topics for discussion / your name
Accepted topics (by interest):
- Employer engagement: national, regional, local - strategies, case studies+1+1+1+1+1 +1 +1
- Success Stories, examples, and case studies (OpenBadging in credentialing & workforce devlelopment) +1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1
- Defining learning pathways with badge endorsement+1+1+1+1+1+1+1
- Strategies for integration with new workforce initiatives of WIOA statute+1+1+1
- Open Badge Services: what services could we built on top of Open Badges?
- Scenarios for the future +1+1+1+1+1
- Global activities: where are things happening and who's doing them +1 +1+1+1
Contribute your ideas! Put a +1 next to the topics that you would like to discuss on this call. Those topics with the most +1 will be hosted.
Catch up from 2015
A listing of the community calls from 2015 will soon be consolidated on openbadges.org, but until then, here are the recent records.
Community Call: 20 January 2016
Community Call: 13 January 2016
Community Call: 6 January 2016
Community Call: December 16 2015:
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Community Call: November 25 2015:
Canceled for the American Thanksgiving Holiday
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Reading List/Additional notes for the community
Please add what you've been reading below. We'll soon be staffed up to curate this list more regularly.
Upcoming conferences and events
Let us know where you're going to be, especially if you're giving - or attending - a badges presentation!
- AAEEBL Midwest Regional at Notre Dame: May 12 - 13
- AAEEBL Annual Conference 2016: August 1 - 4, 2016
- Open Badges in Higher Education Conference: University of Southampton (UK): March 8, 2016
- "Discussions and workshops will investigate the use of alternative credentials for recognising achievements of skills and co-curricular contributions within the student experience."
- Badges Summit pre-ISTE Conference Denver, CO: June 24 - Aurora Public Schools
- Issuing platforms:
- Open Badges Speakers List:
Thank you for joining us!