Bitly link for this pad: http://bit.ly/CC15_Oct7
Audio recording: https://archive.org/details/OpenBadgesCommunityCall7October2015
WELCOME TO THE OPEN BADGES COMMUNITY CALL
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MEETING: October 7, 2015
Please state your name each time you speak to help everyone out!
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Roll Call: Who's here?
Please add your name / Twitter handle / email address / intention for your involvement in the wider badges community:
- Don Presant @donpresant / Open Badges in Canada
- Charles Schultz | firstname.lastname@example.org | University of Illinois & Parkland College
- Nate Otto / @ottonomy / Badge Alliance
- James Willis / @Willis3James / Indiana University / email@example.com
- Dan Hoffman / @RedCritter / firstname.lastname@example.org / www.redcritterteacher.com
- Paul Nauert / @PaulFromDP / email@example.com
- Geoffroi Garon / Startup @pygnum #badges | Research Lab @lcauqam #socialdesign | Administrator @qcechofab #fablab #livinglab
- Federico Giacanelli / @bolsoblog /@joinbestr / https://bestr.it / firstname.lastname@example.org
- Brenda M. Perea/@pereaink/Colorado Community College Systememail@example.com
- Serge Ravet / @szerge / badge europe
- Mary Bold / Univ of Washingtgon Bothell / firstname.lastname@example.org
- David Santucci / email@example.com / Still just learning about badges.
- Sheryl Grant / HASTAC / Duke University (lerkin')
- Sunny Lee @soletelee (lurking on pad)
- Anh Nguyen / @badgediscovery / firstname.lastname@example.org / Help make it possible for general public to find badges
- Greg McVerry. @jgmac1106
- Doug Belshaw / @dajbelshaw / email@example.com / Consulting on badges for clients in the UK and beyond
- Brian Duck / @BDuckworks / bkduck @ gmail.com
- Bryan Mathers / @BryanMMathers / firstname.lastname@example.org
- Kerri Lemoie @kayaelle
- Dan Hickey email@example.com
- Randy Macdonald/@firstname.lastname@example.org/Innovation Academy-InnovateOregon
First time introductions:
Yannick Warnier / @ywarnier / email@example.com / Would like to talk about OpenBadges more at conferences in Latin America
REMINDER: these calls are recorded for future review and soundbites
What are you working on this week?
- James: Higher Ed Working Group call next Tues (Oct. 13th) feat. Al Byers of National Science Teacher Association (NSTA)-- more info: https://sites.google.com/site/openbadgesinhighereducation/working-group
- Nate: Rehosting all the badge alliance websites, and making updates.
- Celebrating the launch of LRNG (congratulations!)+1+1+1+1+1+1+1
- At CSky: Launching Badgr's new version, with integration with CanvasNet+1+1
- Geoffroi : My first session in my Ph.D. in communication +1!, UQAM, thema : digitals badges Next week : 10-19 october at Rennes, France, workshop week around Fab Labs, competencies and badges. Badges system Professional development for teachers www.cadre21.org (lunch in january 2016)
- Cadre21 is the learning center that will promote those professional development badges in French-speaking communities.
- Doug: thinking through an Open Badges backpack solution for a client
- Brian Duck: Developing curriculum of skilled trades courses for a client in automotive maintence, safety, and sales; also work as volunteer with a local Incident Management Team traking training for volunteers
- Greg: Meeting with NCCEP next week to explore badges for both GearUp employees and GearUp Youth. Will leave with way more questions than answers.
- Taxonomy Working Group meetings are held every other Thursday from noon-1pm ET. The next one is 10/8. http://etherpad.badgealliance.org/taxonomy-wg-10-8-2105
Collective Shift and LRNG +1
Connie M. Yowell, CEO of CollectiveShift.org; Director of Education, MacArthur Foundation
Blair Taylor, Chief Community Officer, Starbucks+1excellent speaker!+1
Connie: what young people need: learn w peers, pursue passions, link to goals -these often don't connect
LRNG takes Cities of Learning to next level (already, 100,000 youth have earned badges)
Big focus on soft skills,21C skills - find common vocabulary w employers, visible pathways, embedded mentors/peers, anchored to corporate recruitment
Was the LNRG talk supposed to be on "day 2" video here? http://www.uschamberfoundation.org/event/2015-corporate-citizenship-conference Day 1 approximate time stamp is 2:59:11(I was unable to find the right time in the video) +1
Pay attention again tomorrow at #SOCAP15: http://socap15.socialcapitalmarkets.net/
Nate: the best feature of Open Badges is that they offer a chance to understand credentials issued in a different context (e.g. peer groups, interest-based community, academic study)
Nate: if you have online badge earning opportunties outside the Cities, consider advertising these.
Mozilla post: https://blog.webmaker.org/a-movement-to-help-youth-succeed-in-the-21st-century-wearelrng
- Is LRNG a for-profit enterprise?
- No, it's continuing the work of the non-profit MacArthur Foundation (Collective Shift, the organisation behind it, is a 501c non-profit)
- Nate not sure of financial relationships between all partners (esp. in terms of platform for Cities of Learning)
- Is LRNG international in focus? Or just US?+1
- LRNG is based and staffed in the US but intention to expand globally
- Nate is pushing for internationalisation of specification for 2.0 release
- What's Mozilla's role in Open Badges going forward?
- Mozilla was original tech incubator for Open Badges --> Badge Alliance --> focus on bringing badges to wider use cases
- Badge Alliance now under Collective Shift rather than Mozilla
- Mozilla is committed to maintaining the Open Badges resources available, including backpack and validator, and to help support community-led development of software packages
- Are we still referring to 'Mozilla Open Badges'?
- This will be teased out and addressed over the next few months after reboot of Badge Alliance.
- Mozilla owns the trademarks for Open Badges and the logo is 'Mozilla Open Badges' --> committed to it being a community project.
- MozFest session from DigitalMe on 'hacking the backpack' accepted (http://digitalme.co.uk) --> https://2015.mozillafestival.org
- Is Nate being made permanent Executive Director of the Badge Alliance? (if not, what's the process for the search?)
- Nate is going to ask the board to confirm him as Executive Director of Badge Alliance (how can we support u?)
- Board of the Badge Alliance is made up of three members (Connie Yowell, Mark Surman, Rob Abel(IMS Global CEO)
- Nate likely to stay as part-time at Concentric Sky
- Media perception / conflict-of-interest issues — we'll deliver badge of Moral integrity to Nate!+1+1(I'll endorse it!)+1+1
- What's the current status of Open Badges in terms of becoming (part of) a W3C standard?
- Developing a mechanism for standardising identity documents and credentials that will hopefully lead to official work of the W3C.
- Open Badges Specification v1.1 is compatible with the OpenCreds specification: http://opencreds.org
- Decision made in the next few months about whether OpenCreds is an official working group:
- Badge Alliance would be responsible for defining what an educational credential would look like (define vocabulary, etc.) This is centralizing authority, no?
- Open Badges aren't just educational?+1+1
- they could even be used as a credential "over 21." It's a question of who the issuer is to trust the statement (more or less)...+1+1
- W3C group wants to be content agnostic about what goes into their format (container format)
- Benefits of W3C compliance if we are OK w the "properties" thing? Searchability?
- How are Collective Shift/LRNG thinking about higher ed if at all?
- Do we have badge stats from the Backpack yet?+1+1+1
- Can we make these stats a regular thing that gets reported out?+1-1
Badge Alliance 2015 Kickoff!
3 new job postings coming out this week. The first is available now at
- Community Manager
- Technical Writer
- Junior Developer
Hot Topic on Badge Program Efficacy: How to collect data to assert efficacy
What does efficacy mean to you for badge programs?
Which is a more important variable: (+1 your favorite)
- When they are used. +1+1(I'm not that interested in badges-for-motivation, but they prove their value when they are issued, earned, displayed, and consumed. When they actually complete their life-cycle) another way to think of this is engagement
- When badges help learners be intentional about the learning progress and archiving of a personal portfolio.+1
- When students are eager to show off their badges to parents and peers it is an effective implementation.+1
- When badges help educators define learning outcomes in OST programs+1+1
- When employers recognize badges as legitimate representations of professional learning, skills, knowledge, etc.+1+1
- So when employers will actually do recruiting based on skill seach inside badges.+1
- When students are more motivated to participate in learning because of badges.+1
- Measureable impact on external metrics such as skills/learning levels, productivity, broader economic data+1+1
- When they accurately measure/reflect competency (in general, in opposition to "seat time")+1+1
- When schools or issuers can analyze badge distribution data to improve efficiency/effectiveness+1
- When badges are endorsed by trustworthy 3rd parties (earners, consumers, accreditors)+1+1+1
- When badges better define and highlight learning opportunities+1
- Impact on learning and development systems: competency frameworks, CBE, etc.
- Motivation to learn +1
- Use of badges +1+1+1+1
- Improved educational outcomes+1+1+1+1
- Economic outcomes (hiring outcomes)+1+1+1+1
- Communities formed around badges
- Badges for wayfinding
What is a good way to ask a specific efficacy question about a badge issuing program?
- To an educator: Have badges helped you to be more intentional about your learning outcomes?+1
- To an educator: Have badges helped you to highlight learning opportunities for your students?+1
- To a learner: What do you use your badges for?+1
- To an employer: Do you know what open badges are? If so, how do you treat them from applicants and/or current employees? If you do not know about them, what is your initial reaction and how could you be convinced of their value?
- To student: How did your friends/family respond when you mentioned you earnt a badge?+1
- big data (learning analytics)
- Randomized controlled trials ("gold standard")+1
Moving Forward: Topics + Community leads for the weekly Community Call
We will be opening up this call to the community to help determine topics / lead / etc.
Please add topics for discussion / your name / indicate if you want to lead the call
- October 15: LRNG product demo, Belgian Badge Backpack
- October 21: MozFest Warm-up
- October 28:
...any interest in Belgian Badge Backpack? I'd like to learn more about this badging system for government
Accepted topics (by interest):
- Employer engagement: national, regional, local - strategies, case studies+1+1+1+1+1 +1 +1 - We held a recent summit on Badges for Employers - Tim
- Success Stories, examples, and case studies (OpenBadging in credentialing & workforce devlelopment) +1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 (Curious what people are defining as success here... - We held a recent summit on Badges for Employers - Tim (David Leaser from IBM would be a great speaker -- he spoke at DevLearn 2015 and it was standing room only - Sheryl
- Overview of what has happened and what is currently happening in the Cities of Learning space +1+1+1+1+1 +1+1 (Reaching out to some folks involved on this -Nate) Happy to help here. So much to say... - Tim
Contribute your ideas! Put a +1 next to the topics that you would like to discuss on this call. Those topics with the most +1 will be hosted.
- Badge start "toolbox" not just defining skills/competencies, but also self-hosting information or external hosting+1+1
- Where are the roadblocks, what are the issues people should know?+1+1
- Trust and security (the deleterious effects of mistaking security for trust)+1+1
- Defining learning pathways with badge endorsement+1+1+1+1+1+1+1
- Global activities: where are things happening and who's doing them +1 +1+1+1
- Open Badge Services: what services could we built on top of Open Badges? Scenarios for the future +1+1+1+1
- Badge-centric vs. person centric infrastructure+1+1
- Educators space+1 +1 +1+1+1
- Higher ed conversations may be separate from k-12 for the most part+1
- - and Continuing Ed. as well (Carey)+1+1
- Adult Ed+1
- Initiatives that are badge-centric occurring throughout the US but that have not been involved in the BA work
- Universal design -- access for people with disabilities +1+1 +1+1
- Strategies for integration with new workforce initiatives of WIOA statute+1+1+1
- 'Hack the Backpack' - Understanding the wants/needs of the community in terms of future development of the Backpack (Matt - DigitalMe)
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Reading List/Additional notes for the community
Please add what you've been reading below. We'll soon be staffed up to curate this list more regularly.
Upcoming conferences and events
Let us know where you're going to be, especially if you're giving - or attending - a badges presentation!
- Issuing platforms:
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